This Chinese Live Music Performance is…Fake?

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Hey guys! So we were browsing on YouTube the other day, Hey guys! So, we were browsing across… across, in, f, on! Hey guys! It’s been a long day. Hey guys! So, we were browsing YouTube the other da- Ugh, faaach… Hahahaha! Hey guys! So we were browsing YouTube the other day, and we came across this… very interesting musical live performance. Now, we don’t really know what the context of this video is. But it seems to be a live performance broadcast on Chinese television. And let’s just say that… they did an oopsie. Now, to be fair, these oopsies are very subtle. But! Being your favourite classical musicians detectives online, we feel like it’s our calling to present to you guys… * Chinese vs Western Music Battle * Brett: Woah, look at that instrument! What’s it called? I don’t know. Is it a Chinese instrument? Must be. We clearly have no idea about these instruments. I don’t know. Looks cool! Alright, I know this isn’t related yet, and you guys are probably dying to know what the oopsies are. But just side tangent story, I’ve always thought the guzheng was the coolest instrument after watching… I think it’s called Kung Fu like this Asian martial arts movie. And the guy was like an assassin. And he played the guzheng. It’ll be like and like daggers would come out like – That’s right guys, instruments are weapons.
– The best movie! Instruments are weapons! – Yes!
– Yeah! Okay. Violin! Now it’s our domain of expertise! Okay! – Let it begin!
– Hahahaha! Okay, so so far it looks pretty good. Not suspicious. It’s not like the movie acting video we made earlier where the fingerings and bowings are just completely off. She’s playing the right fingerings, she’s playing the right bowings, and the time is right. Two things are slightly suspicious. Eddy: First of all, look how much rosin is on that violin. Brett: Yup! Do you know any professional violinists with that much rosin on the violin? No, cuz you have to look after your instrument, and clean it! Mhm. Also, the second suspicious thing. Fun fact: Four fine tuners. Oooohh, you’re not a pro if you need four fine tuners! Fine tuners kinda help make tuning easier, and most professionals only have one. Yes. Beginners have four. Obviously, I’m not quite there yet. I’m on two. Eddy’s- Hahahaha! Eddy’s half way! Guys, this is a PRO! Here’s a one. Everyone keeps telling me to remove it. – I just haven’t got around to removing it.
– Yeah. Well, the point is because the fine tuners actually restrict the sound. Yup! But it’s easier to tune. It’s easier to tune, so most beginners have that. – It makes sense.
– Mm. TSAHH CHAHT!! – She did an oopsie!
– PCHAH! Oopsie!! Can I explain it? Yeah, you explain. So what happened there is… I think I heard of a vibrato… – On an open string!
– OhhHh… OooOhHhHHh!! Okay, just to demonstrate. She played an open string on the A, she went… And then she lifted all her fingers, which means… That’s an open string. There’s no… It’s just- There’s no oscillation. – Yeah, wah-wah-wah-wah…
– Now but if you listen to the music, you can hear Do you hear that vibrating like wah-wah… So, when you hear… but you see… Here’s what it sounds like. Are you ready? Brett: Hahahaha! It’s beginning to look a little bit suspicious. Why would they need to dub over someone that looks like she can play the violin perfectly, yet is using a completely rosin-caked violin and play- with, and with fine tuners as well. And is it dubbed? Or- I don’t know. Let’s just not judge too quickly. Yup. Maybe it’s the glitch in the sound audio. Yup… But that’s one strike. Oopsie! Oopsie number 2!!! Okay so right there guys, is a perfect example of another oopsie. I think I heard notes that are separated by bow changes, but his bow was moving in one direction. Meaning he connected the notes. If you listen carefully, this is what you’ll hear. When you change the bow, you can hear “ta, ta, ta,” articulation. But if you look, he played it like this, So, very suspicious. – Hmmm…
– I think that’s a strike 2, guys. – Hmmm…
– 3 strikes- – We’ll still give you one more strike before-
– Yeah, cuz we like to have our doubts. – That’s okay.
– Yeah. Now this one is not strictly an oopsie because technically it is possible. But! Hmm… I find it a little bit hard to believe that she produced such… equal sounding bow changes at the tip and right at the frog with that kind of straight pinkie she had. Because… because the frog is very heavy, so… normally you’d change… here. – Yeah.
– You would not play that… Yeah. It’s too- Sounds raspy. Unless you’re Hilary Hahn, and unless you’re doing a Ling Ling workout, – There’s no reason you gotta play that there.
– there’s no… exactly. – Yeah.
– Exact- But, we don’t- – Who knows? Who knows?
– Who knows? Let’s just not judge. That’s not a strike. It’s not a strike. Not quite yet… Borderline… There’s another one. Argh… Hahahaha! HAHA! That’s not strictly an oopsie yet. No, we will give them… another chance. You know… We’re being very generous here, but… I hear tremolo… And tremelo that sound is when you do… But if you look, she does one bow. But you know, maybe the cameraman focused on the wrong person. – Yeah, maybe the camera foc- yeah! Yeah.
– And the other violinist was doing the tremolo, – There’s another…
– so- May- maybe, just maybe, just- Not an oopsie! Don’t worry about that, guys. Oopsie!! Oopsie!! Ohh okay. Alright, I’m not holding back. Hahahaha! That was too obvious! – Can we listen to it again? I wanna-
– Yeah, let’s just- Just make make sure we heard the right thing. Ow my hand… That is… That is… No, no, okay. Okay. There’s two things, his left hand as well. Oh my god, okay. I hate to be a critic! But, When you hear the… It’s called a spiccato! The bow is actually leaving the string. But you see his bow not leave the string. Tchaikovsky 3rd movement: Always around here. But if I do what he did, It’s impossible, bruh! And on top of that, what I just saw the double oopsie. Look at the left hand! Alright guys, 3 strikes. It’s official there’s… They must be dubbing or something… I don’t know, but they’re faking. There’s something fake about this performance. Oh wow! It’s offic- TwoSet verified: It’s a fake! Oh, dammit. So at this point, I’m wondering like… Like what is happening? Is this a fake audience? And a fake performance? And they dubbed it? Were they playing a dubbed live, so the audience heard the dubbed- – Kinda like lip syncing in pop concert right?
– Yeah, so… Yeah! You can fake singing without making a sound. – But it’s a lot harder to fake violin playing
– Yes… without making a sound. Yeah, so there must’ve been sound there. Unless they blasted it louder. Look, I do think it’s an amazing performance. So much effort was put into the stage performance. Obviously, the people there are musicians, they can play. They look amazing. But, you know we’re just being classical nerds, and thought we would just point out these little… little… quirks in their performance. Mhm. But I mean, what do you guys think? Is it… Do you guys think this is fake? Do you guys… do you think this is real? What are the theories behind? Why you think- You know what… Don’t let this put you down. I think- Don’t believe everything you see on the Internet. Yes. Don’t believe what we’re saying. Maybe we’re full of crap as well. – That’s right, guys!
– Just… – It’s like-
– make your own mind! Subscribe to us if you like our content. And if you like more classical music and stuff… That’s right, we’re here for you! See you guys soon. I mean, I dunno. Yes, see you guys next time!

 

100 Responses

  1. Catherine Mao

    February 8, 2020 8:23 pm

    For everyone who is watching this video

    First of all, I agree the first instrument is Pipa. But!!! The second one, the guy in the black hoodie said The instrument in the video is the one that he watching the Chinese movie which is called <Kong Fu> Just saying because it is <Guqin> I know it’s only a tiny difference between <Guzheng> but you can search on Google.

    About <Guqin> (my mom is the master of this instrument) she tells me that this instrument is the first instrument in the Chinese history. <Guzheng> is a new instrument and now not many Chinese people notice this is instrument anymore.

    If you want to see a video of my mom play <Guqin> on YouTube you can copy and paste this Chinese words 杨璐萌 古琴.

    The only thing I really want to say just let you guys know there is actually a instrument is call <Guqin> ☺️

    By the way if there’s any grammar and problem just ignore it. I’m still working very hard to improve my English!😂😂😂

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  2. Emma Phillips

    February 9, 2020 12:24 am

    My orchestra teacher always says you may now get your weapons out and says you may now pack up your weapons

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  3. StellaLeKat

    February 9, 2020 1:33 am

    Two-Set Violin sees an oopsie: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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  4. Jordan Loh

    February 9, 2020 2:35 pm

    chinese instrument pipa player is fake, she pressed 1# and I makes 1 sound and she noticed and she immediately puts her finger back to 1

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  5. 。の淑女路线 ̅ 我不走 の 。

    February 10, 2020 1:07 am

    I feel like they just made a misktake, like they know how to play it but they're not perffisonal (did i spell it right?)

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  6. thao nguyen

    February 11, 2020 5:01 pm

    Cố tỏ ra thần thái để khỏa lấp đi sự yếu kém về chuyên môn thật sự, họ hợp làm ca sĩ hay diễn viên hơn là người chơi nhạc, và thực tế thì Cúc Tịnh Y ngoài đời đã là Ca sĩ, diễn viên thực thụ rồi, cần gì cố gồng thêm tài chơi nhạc đỉnh cao cho ra dáng đa tài, đa di năng. Mà nói đi cũng phải nói lại, là chương trình truyền hình thì mục đích là có nhiều người xem, nên đủ mọi chiêu trò, đây tính là gì

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  7. Nem Nem

    February 13, 2020 9:57 am

    Not surprise if it fake tbh. I remembered there's this one time where a girl caught lip syncing to another girl voice. Apparently the original voice owner are deemed to be too 'ugly' to perform infront of others

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  8. Winnee

    February 14, 2020 5:23 am

    1:35
    Oh, is she the short-hair girl playing guzheng in the movie "Our Shining Days" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM-R8Kcw9r8)?????

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  9. holynova15

    February 14, 2020 6:22 am

    Sometimes the music is recorded beforehand and then they mime it on stage because the sound will be horrible when played live

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  10. yue kosho

    February 15, 2020 2:25 pm

    I think they still have talent at some point. Tho they are mostly idol, not musician, so the performance may was just an act scene. The producer may made them record a perfect record, than play the record live. The idols just need to pretend playing it live. Everyone knows it hard to be a multi talents person right?

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  11. Helen Stesya_

    February 16, 2020 10:04 am

    they just wanna make theirself look like they know everything, can u search about that china show first dude?

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  12. Haritoa Waaka

    February 18, 2020 3:31 am

    Hey… anyone remember the Ghuzeng player from Our Shining Days? I recon it’s her playing the Ghuzeng here

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  13. Curtis Rima

    February 18, 2020 5:32 am

    Just saw this today, and I have to say that it wouldn't be the first time that China faked a public music performance, anyone remember 2008 Olympics in Beijing during the opening ceremony singer http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26153578/ns/beijing_olympics-beijing_olympics_news/t/young-olympics-singing-star-didnt-really-sing/

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  14. Tina C

    February 18, 2020 2:53 pm

    I think the person who screwed up quite a bit was the camera man. When the sound was from erhu he focused on the violinist.

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  15. PeppermintBiscuit

    February 19, 2020 1:38 am

    I've never played violin or had any interest in classical music so I don't know why Youtube recommended me your videos, but now that I've started to watch them I just can't stop. You guys are so entertaining and I'm learning so much.

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  16. That Sodding Gamer

    February 20, 2020 4:04 pm

    Yeah, presumably dubbed (string-synced? Like lip-syncing, but for stringed instruments?) so the performers could focus on putting on a dramatic show, rather than focusing too much on the playing itself. Pretty dishonest, but hey, what do you expect?

    Pretty sure that 'Kung Fu' movie was 'Kung Fu Hustle'?

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  17. Natalie Boatwright

    February 21, 2020 5:02 am

    I think since there’s a lot of performers that they recorded before hand so they wouldn’t mess up on stage and so the crowd couldn’t hear the mess up. Because it doesn’t look like an easy piece to play.

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  18. Breathin Ariana

    February 21, 2020 3:27 pm

    This reminds me a show that I went in China, where a 82-year-old woman was “singing” a song with high notes. I immediately saw that it was FAKE. She didn’t articulate enough, the sound and the movements of her mouth were not SYNCED, and the song sounded EXACTLY THE SAME EVERYWHERE!!! Everyone was cheering, standing up, dancing, and I was like 😶🤦🏻‍♀️

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  19. MaskWarlord

    February 21, 2020 4:05 pm

    We Need to start a movement where we rick roll People, but instead of rick roll its flight of the bumblebee.

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  20. Andre L

    February 21, 2020 6:52 pm

    What is the movie at 2:03? I watched it as a kid also and thought it was the coolest weapon to exist when I was like 7.

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  21. Barbara Tan

    February 22, 2020 11:37 am

    Just found this video and… a bit scared that I'm too Asian (?) to know and have accepted the fact that a lot of asian shows dubbed the performance >.< variety shows/ some music shows normally record a few times and during the live performance, they either just play the full backtrack or play like 50% backtrack and the mic is only projecting 50% of the sound – so you can hear pants during dances but singing won't be out of tune etc.

    this one sounds unrealistically clear lol but i do know the pipa player can play her instrument well – i have seen her on other shows playing it well (sorry, don't know the others though but from the comments, they were also trained)

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  22. Karen Tiu

    February 22, 2020 2:06 pm

    The comment about kyulkyung is…she is a girl from a k-pop group called “pristin “but sadly pristin got disbanded then she became a Chinese famous star

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  23. Chloé François

    February 22, 2020 5:09 pm

    0:23 – 0:45 aww it’s like Eddy’s hugging his violin… (but carefully and lovingly because it’s still a precious violin)

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  24. REM Shinigami

    February 23, 2020 2:36 am

    The movie you are talking about is Kung Fu Hustle. I love that movie as well. One of my favourites ever

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  25. Mizu _

    February 23, 2020 5:02 pm

    When I saw the Pipa player, I thought she looked like Kyulkyung from Pristin (KPop Group). After reading the comments, I realized that it was her. 0.0

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  26. Thefangirl 0110

    February 24, 2020 1:46 pm

    Ok in the last part when they’re trying to figure out what they did I might have an answer. In a lot of televised performances it would be a live performance but when they release it they would replace the original live audio with a pre-recorded version. The audience might have such a good reaction because they are backed up with other players and that might hide any small mistakes they might make. Take this with a grain of salt tho

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  27. Werner Boden

    February 24, 2020 2:37 pm

    I stopped watching tv caugh reality shows, because it's all fake.
    In this case: They probably played live for an audience, but maybe,
    it wasn't good enough for public television. They must have dubbed it afterwards.
    Because China has a reputation to try and look good, in the media.

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  28. geekbaritone

    February 26, 2020 3:10 am

    All modern singers lipsynch in live performances why not with an orchestra? it's all about the visual show they put on the other thing is that people expect the singers to sing a song exactly as the studio recording, it's not going to happen. Most recordings are not done in one shot they go back and forth singing the parts and splice it all together to put a final product. Once the song is recorded and put out they learn how to sing it exactly like the recording that's why they get caught because someone put the wrong version of the song they are supposed to lipsynch even though that's supposed to be their own music. Now they have gotten a lot more sophisticated with the lipsynch by controlling the recording with the microphone singing into it but the output is the studio recording unless you are close to the stage you can't hear what they are actually singing live.

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